The Mars Volta

Gigz with Cedric Bixler Zavala @ Club Laga

2004



RC: Yes indeed Rock Circus has come here once again to Club Laga,
     we've been here so many times. We're here to chill with the
     lead vocalist of this band, The Mars Volta, a band I've really
     been digging. The CD is great I'ld like to congragulate you
     guys on such a good job, it's really fresh stuff.
Cedric: Thank you very much.
RC: You've worked hard towards this. I kind of read about the CD
     title, De-Loused in the Comatorium, which I found kind of odd.
     But it's a tribute to a friend of yours that passed recently,
     or a few years back?
Cedric: A few years ago.
RC: One of your members just died recently?
Cedric: Yeah
RC: I'm sorry to hear that, my deepest condolences.
Cedric: Thank you.
RC: Jeromy Ward
Cedric: Yeah
RC: So tell me about your friend that just passed, what made you
     write a CD to tribute him? I mean what kind of a person was he
     to influence you like that.
Cedric: He was our mentor. He taught us everything that created what
     we are today basically. I think our asthetic as far as artists
     are concerned, the applification of the non-musician and the
     true definition of what we believe to be punk rock music. Which
     means to throw out all the rules and not to have a uniform and
     not to copy what the bands look like, but to have them
     influence you and not be carbon copies of what's out there.
     Which is what I think is a lot of the problem with rock music
     today, is that people don't know how to take influence and
     influence them. They become exactly what they see, they become
     parodies. And our friend Julio, he taught us that anything from
     Lenny Bruce to King Crimson to The Swans to Andy Coffman to
     Sylvia Plaft, is pretty much considered, it's an example of
     punk rock music.
RC: Not so much the American version that everybody gets caught up
     in. You kind of stepped out with that with your former band At
     the Drive-In, but I read that you guys didn't want that kind of
     stamp so you just kind of threw that aside and came up with The
     Mars Volta. Which was really cool.
Cedric: Julio is just an example of a starving artist, someone who
     was always struggling. And when your struggling I think your
     art shows, and he was a living walking embodiment of what art
     is or it should be. So therefor it is our going away present to 
     him, and what better way to give someone a present than to have
     a whole album about them.
RC: It's a great tribute. Kind of reminds me of Pink Floyd, when they
     did their thing for Syd Barret, Shine on you Crazy Diamonds. Was
     that a little bit of the idea, that you got?
Cedric: Well he's our Syd Barret. But yeah, Syd Barret's an
     influence so definatley, but we don't want to rip off Floyd or
     anything.
RC: Oh you don't, by no means is this a rip off of Floyd. You guys
     are very original, very inovative, and probably the most
     prolific band to come out this year, and that's no bullshit.
     I'm serious, this is some good stuff.
Cedric: Thanks
RC: You went to Rick Rubin's place to record, how did that happen?
     How did you hook up with Rick, what kind of a guy is he like?
Cedric: He's a sweetheart, very soft spoken human being, who knows
     how to criticize you without hurting your feelings. Most
     producers kind of tear you apart and you never wanna play music
     again. Rick's just a gentle man and we met him cuz he was a fan
     of At the Drive-In. He started coming to shows and he wanted to
     help out. We got to know him at his house and we asked if we
     could do it at the old Houdini house.
RC: Which is supposedly haunted from what I read.
Cedric: Yeah
RC: Did you feel a presence or something there? Did you see anything
     wierd?
Cedric: Just the opening of doors by themselves, and windows, and
     vibrations are there on the album.
RC: Yeah, it kind of comes through. What's the story behind that,
     does Rick know?
Cedric: Does he know about what?
RC: The ghosts
Cedric: Oh well, Houdini's house is across the street and his wife's
     house is the house where we recorded it at, and where I did all
     the vocals. It's where they had all the seances every Halloween
     to try to...
RC: To bring Harry Houdini back.
Cedric: So that's one story. But also it's a house that Hendrix,
     Beatles, Zeppelin, The Doors, The Band, you know everyone has 
     probably stayed there cuz of the whole area of Laurel King, so
     it has a lot of rock history.
RC: Oh yeah, very cool. You brought in Flea and John Frisciante to
     play a little on this. Did Rick bring them in or are you guys
     friends with them? He's in the video.
Cedric: Yeah, we're friends with them and they just helped us cuz we
     needed someone last minute. He did it all in three days, John
     just got off the plane and...
RC: He just played on one track?
Cedric: Yeah he played on one track. He does like on Ciciatriz ESP,
     when it breaks down in to this ambient part, he does a lot of
     the affected parts. And he also does a dueling solo, it sounds
     so funny dueling solo, but he does like a dueling thing with
     Omar on there.
RC: Like doubles it out?
Cedric: Yeah, he just got off the plane, came over, and I watched
     them do it. It was fun.
RC: Is it fascinating to watch Rick work with the board and pull
     stuff out of you guys? were you really floored as opposed to At
     the Drive-In stuff, was this stuff that really took you over?
Cedric: Rick is more a preproduction guy. There was other people
     that were behind the board, but it was primarily like Omar
     behind the board. It was a colaberation of producers really.
RC: Which is quite good if the label lets the guitar player do some 
     production.
Cedric: Well he knew what we wanted and Omar is just very good with
     a lot of that stuff. So Rick's very good with preproduction,
     organization of the song, telling you if the paintings crooked
     or not from the back of the room. I mean he's really good with
     the vocal stuff and kind of honing the common man's ear in to
     what we do, or every song would be fifteen minutes long.
RC: That's one thing that I wanted to mention, your songs are a
     little longer than rock standard format now. How do you plan to 
     overcome that barrier? Do you think that the music will just
     eventually soak through or will you release radio edits like a
     lot of other groups do.
Cedric: Yeah, we do radio edits simply just to keep the powers that
     be happy, keeps the money flowing for us, for whatever money we
     need. But live that's our medium you know, and everything
     stretches out. It always changes, the songs don't sound the
     same and that's what keeps it interesting, and that's why every
     show is an individual show on to itself.
RC: Is your label Golden Standard?
Cedric: That's Omar's label. He runs it with this guy named Sunny K.
     He was a silent partner at first and then he bacame more
     visible, and now he and Omar Rodriguez run it.
RC: A lot of acts on there. I was on the site today, I saw The
     Locust, and a bunch of other cool acts.
Cedric: Kill Me Tomorrow, Pow Pow Pow's (!!!'s) first record,
     Outhud's first record, Defacto record, a  bunch of other stuff.
     I can't think off the top of my head, Go Go Go Airhsart, a lot
     of great bands. A lot more of the underbelly of the not so
     popular side of post punk and any other style of punk music I
     guess.
RC: Stuff that don't sound like Blink 182.
Cedric: Stuff that definately has nothing to do with those bands.
RC: When you see those bands is there..., do you give them like dirty
     looks, I wonder?
Cedric: No, no, you know they're people too, they do their style.
RC: They sold their sole.
Cedric: (smiling) They do their style and we do ours. I could spend
     all my time with negative energy saying insults about their
     music but that's fine, that's what they wanna do, at least
     there's that you know. But we just provide a different choice
     for people.
RC: Which is great. Are you pretty popular in the UK, in the Eastern
     hemispheres.
Cedric: Some parts
RC: You hit there first, I would imagine, right?
Cedric: We did states first with this band on our own, we did a band 
     tour. We didn't sell anything no shirts, no stickers, no 
     anything, it was just music. We just wanted to get to know 
     eachother musically, see who worked in the band or not. Did it
     in the band and then jumped out with a band called Asabi Fab in 
     Europe, and another band called The Apes from DC and did a 
     European tour in a van. When we did the Red Hot Chilli Pepper
     dates we got in to a bus and did it with a bus and, with this
     round we have a crew and people helping us.
RC: How were you recieved by the Chilli Pepper fans.
Cedric: Europe is good, the states is different, the states is...
RC: People got that kind of arrogance, we're here to see the Chilli 
     Peppers...
Cedric: Well yeah, it's umhhh..., when you're a popular band of that 
     magnitude you're always gonna attract the spring break, Daytona,
     Real World, Road Rules, type crowd.
RC: Europeans are more open.
Cedric: Way more open.
RC: I think that's part of the problem with the radio monoploies that
     are going on in the United States right now. I know the station
     in town hates me so I don't really care, but I say what the
     truth is.
Cedric: We totally dislike it or are disgusted by Clear Channel but
     it's hard to get around them.
RC: You can't.
Cedric: You can't, it's like the McDonald's of rock music, and
     they're as evil as McDonald's, if Nazi like. They're a
     completely horrible organization, they're very mob like. If you
     ever realize it, but songs like Imagine or Bullet to the Head
     are not allowed to be played because they want people to be
     frenzied, in a state of war. That's Clear Channel you know.
     It's a lot of right wing, I wouldn't be surprised if they had
     ties with the KKK. But you know it's impossible to get around
     that because they own everything, you know.
RC: You see I think they're a little more arrogant, I just think
     they're neo-nazis and that's that.
Cedric: Minus the sheets right.(laughing)
RC: Yeah exactly. The first video you did off of this was
     Inertiatic  ESP, why did you pick that track? Was it just
     because it was the lead off track or was that the favorite
     track of the band, or the suits? 
Cedric: We didn't, it's the suits.
RC: What's your favorite?
Cedric: Drunkship of Lanterns
RC: I like that, that's a nice one. So when you're out doing the
     vocals or the lyric, do you have the lyrics already written
     before the music or does that come as you hear the music, track
     by track?
Cedric: Yeah, I always add-lyb. I don't ever sing anything concrete
     until it gets closer to the deadline and we have to do the
     stuff. Omar has everything written pretty much and then we take
     it to Theodore, John Theodore our drummer, and he disects it
     even more. And then it becomes its own little walking monster.
     But yeah, it's always music first, and then the story got put
     together bit by bit, even when the record was finished. It's
     easier to put all the gaps in, put the cement between the
     bricks, so music first.
RC: So you think you're boys smiling on from beyond, here's my boys.
     Here it is the name of the CD is De-Loused in the Comatorium,
     which I think I've been a few times, I'm not sure. I'ld like to
     thank Cedric for coming on the show, wish you the best of luck,
     we dig the CD.

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